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  • Should I believe Wikipedia and White Noise?
  • Why did Geraldo attack Gary Schwartz so viscously?

  • What do you think should be studied next for EVP and has progress has been made?

  • I would like to work in survival research. What should I do to begin?


    Should I believe Wikipedia and White Noise?

    Question: I watched the movie white noise and it is what got me interested in EVP. I have heard and read about it on Wikipedia, and I know that it is a debated subject. I do wonder how people can prove that EVP is really real. I wonder, doesn't the TV wavelengths, or wavelengths from a radio cause EVP. How do people actually know that they are hearing from a loved one instead of a TV show, or a mix between that and the radio. I also once heard that the majority of EVP recordings are violent in nature. Is this true, and if so, how does it affect EVP studies and does it set your research back because people are afraid to get into it. Now I'm sure the movie over exaggerated EVP when people involved in it kept getting hurt, but I wonder, do people involved in EVP end up hurt in some way often, or is it very rare.

    Answer: We receive quite a few questions like yours.

    I should first address the article about EVP in Wikipedia. Frankly, it is an embarrassment of incorrect and misleading information in what claims to be an authoritative encyclopedia. Tom Butler has written an article about our concerns titled, Concerns with Wikipedia. He also asks that other webmasters include the link logo on that page in their website as a way to spread the word of caution. It is written for all "frontier subjects" and not just EVP. His hope is that, rather than condemning the article as an "attack article," the editors of Wikipedia will accept it as a challenge to prove that he is wrong.

    As you have done here, it is good to seek input from other sources. For instance, you might consider asking the same question of some of the hauntings investigation groups.

    As for distinguishing the utterances from stray TV or radio signals, EVP have been recorded in radio-frequency and acoustically isolated chambers. Eliminating Radio Frequency Contamination for EVP is an example of a test that you could perform. Alexander MacRae has published an article in the October 2005 British Journal of the Society for Psychical Research that details his research in a Mil-Spec screened room. Of course the inexpensive recorders favored for EVP are prone to RF contamination, but it is easy to tell when it happens. See the list of common characteristics found in recorder EVP for what we refer to as "transform EVP" in the article, Electronic Voice Phenomena. Very long examples are automatically suspect.

    We consider EVP to be communication, and in transform EVP, the voice often directly answers questions or includes a comment typical of the one thought to be speaking. However, our recommendation is that, if there is any doubt, the example should be rejected.

    It is becoming more common for experimenters to use more than one recorder at the same time, or to record in groups. As you can see in Using a second audio recorder as a control, one of the Best Practices we are trying to develop makes it clear that a control recorder is important to help rule out false positives.

    If you go to Speech Synthesis, you can hear examples of two other forms of EVP--both using allophones as a raw sound source. The EVPMaker example is convincingly two-way communication, yet it was made in a closed system using computer generated bits of simulated human voice and a random number process to assemble a sound stream. We refer to that as "opportunistic EVP." The second set of examples were made using a voice synthesis computer circuit stimulated with changes in the electrical field of the room. Again, no "live" voice was used and the nature of the device makes audio and RF contamination unlikely.

    It is difficult to say an utterance is RF contamination when a question put to a loved one is answered correctly in the right voice, age and gender, and with the mannerisms the person had while in the flesh. Of course, we remain open for alternative explanations because there is much we do not understand. But in practical terms, when a mother conducts a session to communicate with her daughter or son on the other side, we tend to yield to her sense of who she is speaking with. The evidence is strongly in her favor.

    You will notice that I keep saying EVP as a plural--phenomena and not phenomenon--as it is in Wikipedia. You will also notice that we are dealing with a high degree of certainty that the explanations offered to discount EVP have been easily addressed, including processing artifacts, imagination and mistaken assignment of meaning. That last part is discussed in the EVP online listening trials report, but has been addressed many times. For instance, see Computer–Based Analysis of Supposed Paranormal Voice. There are some really good arguments against EVP being proof of survival of consciousness after physical death, but the policy of refusing the input of subject matter experts pretty well assure that the paranormal are written by people who simply do not understand the subject well enough to know when they have it wrong.

    You will also notice that we do not maintain that EVP has evolved from Spiritualism, as it is maintained in Wikipedia. EVP began because anomalous voiced were found in recording media, and the only link to Spiritualism is that it turns out that the voices are thought to be from discarnate entities. Some of the early efforts to record direct voice did produce EVP, but only coincidently. You will also notice that, other than a few of our article writers, we do not use the term "spirit" to name the communicators. To do so would be to make assumptions that should still be open questions, and it unnecessarily links the study of EVP to religious thought.

    Finally, you are concerned that, just in case the voices are really dead people talking, is recording for EVP safe. The producers of White Noise did a pretty good job of making people afraid of the dark. But in fact, the author was using mental mediumship as a model and knew very little about EVP. The Butler's were not involved during the making of the movie, so don't blame them.

    One of the most common questions is a concerns for the safety of EVP. The short answer is that all forms of trans-etheric communication we are aware of is safe. The only caveat we might add is that, if you are a person who is apt to do what a stranger tells you without a second opinion, then you probably should not be talking to strangers--physical or etheric. For more information, read A Brief Discussion About the safety of Communicating with the Other Side and the two FAQs: Is there any danger in EVP and More about the safety of EVP.

    There are a number of people in the field calling themselves "demonologist," and we feel they may be promoting the fear of violence as they attempt to paint the communicators in EVP as demons. This sort of negative view does hurt research because it damages the credibility of serious, well-designed research. Funding for research is not going to be available if the public sees our field as religious or those who study the subject as being superstitious.

    Why did Geraldo attack Gary Schwartz so viscously?

    We do not know what is in the heart of Geraldo that leads him to make such a one-sided attack on the character of a well-known scientist as he did on Fox TV. If you read Dr. Gary Schwartz's rebuttal at http://drgaryschwartz.com/, you will see that he plans legal action.

    We know Dr. Schwartz and know him to be a very ethical man who is a hard worker for the scientific investigation of things paranormal. He is one of the few academically trained researchers in the world who are willing to risk a career to study a subject that is so shunned by mainstream scientists. Given the implications proof of the survival of personality after physical death has for existing principles of science and religious thought, it is not surprising that a conservative TV program would want to discredit his research.

    Do not forget that we are all subject to such attacks. It is important that we are careful about what we believe.

    What do you think should be studied next for EVP and has progress has been made?

    There is no realistic doubt that the voices are real. As an electronic engineer and careful observer of the phenomena (we routinely collect such voices) it is clear that the voices in the recordings exist, so I would call that a logical "given" for consideration of other questions.

    It is apparently true that the voices cannot be accounted for as an artifact of currently understood technology. In other words, we (the community) have conducted experiments designed to eliminate the possibility that the voices are caused by such physical sources as stray radio signals, ground antenna artifacts, unnoticed sounds occurring at the time the recording is made, imagined voices in otherwise unmodulated sounds and contaminated recording media. It is possible that we have overlooked a physical source, so I will not call this a "given," but a well established hypothesis.

    What has not been well researched is the origin of the voices, if they originate from nonphysical sources. (Here, I refer to "nonphysical" as "etheric.") The working hypothesis is that the voices are initiated by discarnate people (predominantly "dead" people like long dead Uncle John). For instance, voice analysis of some examples has been nearly 95% to 98% conclusive that it is the discarnate person speaking. In some instances, people who may have never existed in the physical (angelic or nature spirit) or who have evolved from a different line of evolution (aliens both incarnate and discarnate) may be communicating. It is important to note that we are convinced that nonhuman communicators exist, but any one report to this effect should be carefully evaluated before accepting it. For instance, the majority of a listening panel should agree on the message content.

    The problem is that we know that physically living people are able to impress their thoughts into the media as EVP. Experiments have been conducted to show this and it is as we would expect from the metaphysics. So, a major question is: can we devise experiments that will allow us to certify that at least some of the voices are not from our mind? We think we have with the 4Cell EVP Demonstration and the above mentioned voice analysis, but more work needs to be done.

    There is another influence on what we record in EVP. Assuming that the experimenter's subconscious mind is only occasionally the source of the message, there is evidence that what the experimenter expects to experience will tend to be realized by the resulting EVP. In other words, if two experimenters go to a haunted location and record for EVP, and one expects a scary ghost and the other expects to learn something new, the first will more likely record scary EVP and the second is more likely to record meaningful messages. Since we hypothesize that the experimenter is the medium through which the message must come, and therefore the source of symbols used for the message, it is reasonable that the same message might be delivered as a scary thing for the first and a meaningful thing for the second. Consequently, this apparent selection by expectation does not require that the message originated from the experimenter, but this is an important question for research.

    The biggest question for Humankind that might be answered by EVP is whether or not the super psi and the quantum-holographic models make sense. Both are different takes on the same model, so I will generalize by saying that many good philosophers, and a few Eastern religions, have proposed that a field of information permeates reality as a non-local "memory" of everything that has ever been, and that people are able to access this field of information to deliver mediumistic messages. This is the "echoes of the past" model, and if it is true, there is no reason to think that there are etheric entities that are sentient and self-aware, some of which may be angelic. If it can be established that the communicator in EVP is etheric, independent of the experimenter and self-aware (sentient), then  it would effectively discount the super psi and quantum-holographic models (although they may still be true for nonsentient information). The remaining model would be the Survival Hypothesis, which holds that people are an etheric Self in a symbiotic relationship with a physical body, and that when the body dies, the Self is released into an etheric aspect of reality. The possible validity of the Survival Hypothesis seems to provide a foundation of logic for the validity of dependent theories, such as intelligent design.

    Finally, we have seen that transcommunication is a function of technology, the experimenter and the ability of the etheric communicator. EVP is to some extent dependent on technology. For instance, the advent of the digital voice recorder has greatly improved the ability of people to record EVP as compared to the ordinary cassette recorder. We also see that groups form on the other side to improve communication, and groups cooperating on this side also seem to improve communication. So yes, we will make progress

    I would like to work in survival research. What should I do to begin?

    If you intend to work on the question of survival of personality, if you are in it for the long hall, then I would say that the field needs people like you. It is not wise to judge tomorrow by what has happened today, so anything I can tell you should be considered reference material but not necessarily how things are.

    The hardest part of this is learning how to talk about it. Even the smartest person you will ever talk to will have preconceptions and a short attention span. The common meaning of words is extremely important. While "telepathy" had a more clinical sound, "reading minds" or "communication between minds" are better understood by the average person. Science uses "work" in a very different sense than it is used by the average person and few people understand entropy. When you speak or write about things etheric, try to write it for the average person. Avoid coining terms or using novel application of existing terms. Attempt to use the same dictionary the clerk in your super market might use.

    Semantics are very important. Calling the etheric communicator a "spirit" automatically makes it a subject of religion. Skeptics like you to use the same terms religions use because they know it is easier for the public to discount what you have to say. Be aware that people will mix things empirically supported with faith-based comments in the same sentence. Be very careful to say what you can support, and distinguish faith-based from empirically-based comments.

    Become sensitive to the influence of a person's worldview on their perception. The person who claims to be a skeptic is more often a guardian of the status quo as defined by mainstream science. Such a person can be almost religious about such beliefs. It is common for a mainstream scientist to go to church on Sundays, believe in God, but the rest of the week, insist that survival of personality after bodily death is impossible and therefore does not happen. Being devout, does not mean belief in things concerned with etheric studies.

    Also be aware that speaking of things etheric as if they are true will be offensive to some people and they may react with anger. It is important that everyone learns about these things, but sometimes it is important to leave room for them to protect their worldview. Sometimes it is best to just show, rather than insisting that people believe. There will be time enough for belief later.

    You can see this belief in the paranormal without believing in survival in parapsychology. That is why I started etheric studies and wrote that introduction at http://etheric-studies.aaevp.com/. Parapsychologists are important to etheric studies, but do not make the mistake in assuming that a parapsychologist believes in survival. Superpsi, quantum-holographics and a host of pet "theories of everything" are designed to explain the observed phenomena in terms of a biological origin of consciousness. It may turn out that they are more true than the creationist theories, but they also preclude an external influence, and in my mind, that is equivalent to believing that earth is at the center of the universe. More likely, we will find that most of these theories have some value and it is for us to find ways to test them with good science.

    So my point is that I agree with you in saying that the science is there to prove the existence of a non-physical aspect of consciousness and an etheric aspect of reality in which it exists. The real obstacle is that such research is too easily discounted because there are relatively few well-designed studies, as compared to something like the migration of birds. The subject also shares some terminology with belief systems, and is automatically considered a religious issue and not one for science. If you have read Dean Radin's Entangled Minds, and witnessed the scoffing at the closure of the PEAR lab, you will understand that very good science that does not agree with the mainstream is simply rejected.

    It is said that the only way survival can become mainstream is for all of the old-timers to die off. You are probably a good illustration of this, while I consider myself an old-timer who has adapted some. We saw with the release of the movie, White Noise, expanded awareness of what EVP is, and shortly thereafter, some of the first research grants were issued. Probably coincidence, but we have always felt that research money will go where the public's interest is. It is the young people who have the interest.

    Our approach has become one of public education and some targeted research. I will persist in trying to get etheric studies underway and intend to put the online listening report in the Best Practices Development wiki in an effort to have peer review in the public eye. (http://etheric-studies.aaevp.com/best_practices_development/index.php?title=Main_Page) In this way, we hope to establish a platform for research and collaboration. You are welcome to participate.

     

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